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PODCAST: Should you go to college during a recession?

PODCAST: Should you go to college during a recession?

The Recruiters Lounge Podcast is created with recruiters and HR professionals in mind, however this episode discusses issues job hunters would have an interest in. Tune in to the podcast to see what I mean.

Should you go to school during a recession?

In this podcast, Jim and Karen talk about the wisdom of investing thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours into an education when there are no jobs at the end of the process. For that matter, why is a degree necessary for some jobs and not for others? Plus, did you know that you can sue a company for interviewing you for a job that doesn’t exist? And yes, it may be offtopic a bit, but did you know that their is a scam process in place to keep salaries high for lawyers (and Doctor’s too, I think). Finally, Jim and Karen debate the legalities (and entrapment?) of the EEOC when they investigate your hiring practices. Good times…

Quick peek inside the podcast:

01:35 – If they raise taxes in January, its going to be a FUBAR
04:04 – One in 14 students defaulted on their student loans in ’09
08:00 – In this economy, you’re going to tell me people don’t wanna’ moonlight?
10:33 – …and the school does not tell you that you can’t take the bar exam, then yeah, sue
12:58 – Would you say higher education is a Ponzi scheme?
15:12 – …the guy who didn’t graduate will have more money than the guy who did
18:54 – …they had to let the CEO go because he lied on his resume
26:42 – …hiring outside the company for leadership positions. What does that do for your retention?
28:50 – if he needed a manager for a bank, he would interview admins to get the gossip. He has no intention of hiring the assistant
33:54 – Do you know what a tester is?
39:00 – I could, but I would think about how this person represents my searchfirm
42:28 – But that’s a subjective argument



  • Karen made a boo-boo. Its not the lawyers, but the docs. Click here for evidence.



Karen is an experienced, successful recruiter who operates her own business and is actively involved in many industry organizations and activities. After a successful tenure as a recruiter with Snelling, Karen struck out on her own, founding Advanced Career Solutions (ACS). ACS focuses on recruiting for the HVAC Industry. Karen has achieved accreditation as a California Accredited Consultant (CAC) through California Staffing Professionals. She has also gained her Certified Staffing Professional Certificate (CSP) through American Staffing Professionals. (

Karen has a new and future-oriented vision of what recruiting can and should become: a profession we can be proud of for its ethical standing, professional conduct and ability to build great organizations. Her doing-well-by-doing-right philosophy is shaking up the status quo in an industry that needs to be shaken. She does this with conviction, leadership, and a distinctive voice that cries out for change.

Karen was a co-creator of the landmark webinar event – “EEOC Discrimination Debate.” This event featured senior members of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and staffing industry experts discussing and debating difficult issues about discrimination in today’s workplace environment. Company executives, hiring managers, recruiters, and human resource professionals from across the United States were invited to participate in the free Webinar and live panel discussion. Karen also served as one of the panelists on the discussion team in the March, 2006 event.

As co-host of the popular podcast “The Recruiters Lounge,”Karen discusses her frank opinions on the recruitment industry with her co-host, Jim Stroud.

Outside of the HR community, Karen Mattonen has been cited by Microsoft as a resource in how to use Microsoft Outlook as an ATS. She has also served as the Marketing and Public Relations Director for the 3rd largest city in Utah.

Karen is also one of the founders of HireCentrix, the New Generation, Online Human Resources and Recruiting Destination – The Pulse of Regulation, Retention, Recruiting and Risk Management . HireCentrix, is a new company focused on the Employment industry, offering a full service resource for individuals to share and communicate, obtain current and accurate information, acquire and provide education and learning within the quickly expanding, diverse and rapidly changing Recruiting and Human Resource climate.

Contact Karen at – / Follow @hirecentrix on Twitter.

Jim Stroud

Jim Stroud is a “Searchologist” with an expertise in the full life-cycle placement of Executive and Technical personnel, Recruitment Research and Competitive Intelligence. He has consulted for such companies as Google, Siemens, MCI and a host of start-up companies. During his 3-year tenure with Microsoft, he served as a Technical Sourcing Consultant and was a regular contributor to Microsoft’s Technical Careers Blog. He is presently a Social Media Development Manager for EnglishCafe – the premier English learning community for global professionals which has English quizzes, online classes and more.

Jim Stroud is also the Chief Blogger at The Searchologist where he publishes a website, magazine and online video series dedicated to lead generation strategies for Recruiters.

Click here for more info about Jim Stroud / Follow @jimstroud on Twitter

About Jim Stroud

Jim Stroud
Over the past decade, Jim Stroud has built an expertise in social recruiting, sourcing, public speaking, community management, online video, podcasting, and training. He has consulted for such companies as Microsoft, Google, MCI, Siemens, Bernard Hodes Group and a host of startup companies. He presently serves at Randstad Sourceright as a Senior Director, RPO Recruitment Strategies and Support. As a serial entrepreneur, Jim Stroud has created and sold three online properties, written and co-authored books on recruiting and job search strategy. He has also been quoted in leading media resources and cited frequently for his digital influence.